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Out with the old, in with the new
lettered wrote in 19thc_exchange
I made a mistake with this comm. I feel that my structure was probably way too ambitious and complicated, so almost no one signed up. I failed the few of you who did want to participate, because I was unsure about what to do regarding the lack of participants. As such, I'm going to delete this comm in about a week. This is just a notice.

I did really want something like this to work, mostly because I've had a constantly recurring thought over the years I've been in fandom on LJ, and that is: where is the Jane Austen fic? Where is the Charlotte Bronte fic? For a while, I asked, where is the Horatio Hornblower fic? And then I found despatches, which does an excellent job of linking Age of Sail fanfic.

However, I still feel the need for a place to post such fics. I also feel the need for such a place to allow other period fanfiction. Where do you post your Chaucer fic, really? Where do you post your Mulan epic? (Please, tell me there are Mulan epics.) Who is writing fic based on Onegin, and where is it? And yet, there are tons of people writing Merlin fanfic. Lots of people still write Pirates of the Caribbean fanfic. Those things are accessible, and not quite what I'm looking for.

So, what I would like is a comm that is for fandoms which take place before WWI, but takes a leaf from Yuletide's book excludes those fandoms that are extremely popular and get a lot of fic. I know there is rareslash and rarelitslash, which also allows het. There are probably other comms that address some of what I want. But it doesn't have to be literature, it doesn't have to be slash, and it could even be historical rpf. This would be just a posting community, where people could post old fic they have written, new fic, fan art. I want to say icons and such, but we do get a lot of that on bbccostumedrama.

Does anyone have any strong feelings about this? What fandoms should be excluded? Whether fandoms should be excluded? Whether icon posts are allowed? Whether you want to see weekly challenges, etc? I feel like many people have mentioned at various times that they have wanted a comm like this. I'm interested in getting some opinions before I do it. You do not have to be a part of this comm to comment. Thanks!

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This would be great! I'd be all for it.

If I might make a suggestion, I'd extend it through WWII -- but I'm biased, because I've been writing so much "King's Speech" fanfic lately. :-) But if you'd rather not, that's okay. (I've got Dickens fanfic too!)

Oh, and I know someone who's written "Mulan" fanfic, too!

I'll have to think about whether to take it to WWII. My gut reaction was no, because when I set out on my searches for um, bonnet fic, I don't really want radio and cars. And yet, when I think of some of the stuff set during those times, I realize that fic for them doesn't really have homes either, and that I would like to see a place for them. So! Maybe I'll do a poll.

Um. do you know where the Mulan fanfic is?

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that it was here on LJ! It's at

But my friend does have an LJ account, so I could probably persuade her to post hers on a comm here.

I didn't think you implied that it was on lj--thank for the link!

Oh, good. I thought I'd given the wrong impression. And you're welcome. :-)

I always got my period fic through other places (I went through a mayor Jane Austen fic binge period), but I would definitely be interested in a LJ comm! I'd keep icon posts out of the comm though, focusing only on fic.

Yeah, I've found that the majority of these fandoms occur off of journaling sites. I guess journaling sites have a bent toward tv, although of course there are other fandoms here. It does make sense considering paces of updates and the constantly updating canon of tv.

If you care for my thoughts at all:
I would say keep it pre-WWI. But then I'm biased. However, once you get into the 20s and on, there a bit too much "modernization"...I don't know, the feel is different.
Probably keep icons out. There are at least three diff comms I know of where you can post icons, and people post there all the time. I would say, fic, art (like drawings art, not icons...maybe wallpapers) and fanvids (I;m biased on this account, again).

I agree with you re: post WWI feeling different. My housemate just expressed it perfectly: "the 20th century didn't begin until WWI."

However, I'm thinking about how there aren't really any huge fandoms that are set during that time, so there wouldn't be that much fic showing up on the comm, and how it would be nice to be able to have fic for Lawrence of Arabia, or The King's Speech, or what have you.

Maybe I'll do a poll.

Haha, well cutting it at WWI would cut Brideshead Revisited which isn't favorable to me....though that fandom has it's own comm
It's more the fact that after WWI a LOT of customs and attitudes change...long dresses, courtships, candles are for decoration lol, I mean, it's totally up to you. I'm just saying. Someone mentioned tagging and that seems like a good alternative.

Does Brideshead Revisited have a large fandom?

Definitely the flavor after WWI is different. But I mean, the flavor in the Middle Ages is different than during the Renaissance and Englishtenment, so it's not necessarily a comm based on one time period. But it is for stuff that is non-modern, so it's difficult to decide just how non-modern.

Brideshead doesn't have a large fandom. Especially compared to things that have truly large fandoms. It's Yuletide eligible and will most likely stay that way.
And, yes, about the different feels, but things begin to move and change VERY drastically from the industrial rev. It takes a few decades for the changes to take root, but I'd saw WWI really marks the start of a new, modern era, while WWII really doesn't.
I understand the temptation to include the inter-war period, and again, it's ultimately your decisions, and if we had tags it would fix a lot of searching issues.
Also, have you seen this comm? vintagefic Just thought you might find it interesting.

I'd be interested! Even though I probably wouldn't write, it would be really good to have this kind of thing to read such fic on.

South Riding, for instance, is one thing for which I wouldn't know where to look for fic.

I don't know what South Riding is, but if it's period, I'm interested!

I write period fanfic every once in a blue moon, but it's really frustrating to think, "Man! I'd love some George Eliot fanfic right now!" and not have anywhere to search for it on LJ.

It's period, but I guess since it's post WW1 it might not count under your specification. Still.

It's the BBC's latest offering, a three-part drama, and I loved it. It only finished a couple of weeks ago though, so it's pretty recent =)

I think I might change it to be through WWII. Seems like some people might appreciate that, and while WWI and post-war have a different flavor, there's not a home for those fics either.

Okay, yeah, that would be good :)

I would love that idea. I would participate. I am mostly Hornblower, and I deeply love Following Sea, but I am ready, I think to do more. pre WWII sounds right to me -- although 'modern' depends on many factors.

Is there a way to be notified of your launch? (Or whatever you call it?) I would like that.

I don't know what Following Sea is, but um, if it's anything like Honrblower I'm probably there.

I'm thinking about making it through WWII. The original idea was pre-WWI, but I dunno. It's not like there's any huge fandoms set in that time, so it might be nice to be as inclusionary as possible.


Following Sea is the Hornblower fan stuff site. but it is really more than that. It is a wonderful place. Everyone there is so kind and so smart...I have learned so much. You should go.

I think including WWI would be good. But by WWll things were more similar to now, somehow. but whichever way you go is good.

Oh, to answer your other question above, hopefully despatches will link it, and I'll probably post on bbccostumedrama.

Cool! re: Hornblower site. I know the last time I rewatched the mini-series I felt very lost because I just don't have anyone to talk to about it.

But by WWll things were more similar to now, somehow.

HEE. Well, you know, it's closer in time . . . ;o) No, I know what you mean. I can't really decide what to include.

I'm here via a notification on despatches, and I just want to say I'm really excited about this idea! As a reader, I like everything you've suggested, and I wouldn't mind whether you made the cut off point WWI or WWII. Regarding what you mentioned about having to wade through radios when looking for bonnet fic, perhaps a system of tagging fics by period would help?

As a writer, I've posted a Georgian RPS longfic, and I have others (long and short) in the pipeline. If that sounds like the sort of thing that would be acceptable, I'll be delighted to share!

Oh, that tagging idea is awesome!

And Georgian rps I am SO THERE. ...please tell me Shelley finally had his way with Keats ;o)

please tell me Shelley finally had his way with Keats
Well, he might have, but not alas in my fic, which is political rather than poetical. :)

Hee. Well, sounds cool anyway. If/when the comm gets running, I hope you post it!

Hi again, a few thoughts that may not apply to anyone but me:

I'd much prefer not to see icons and graphics, though I wouldn't mind meta/discussion posts. Challenges would interest me--I rarely write fan fiction anymore unless there's some sort of external motivation.

Also, the more tightly focused the comm is, the more closely I'm likely to follow it. I don't read rarelitslash because of how broad it is, though come to think of it I guess I have a few things I could post there.

People do seem to do a ton of period graphics, and yet not nearly enough fic! Maybe sticking with allowing fan art and vids would feel inclusionary to those who produce other fanworks. I did want to definitely have meta and discussion be welcome. Your reviews of various Jane Eyres would be awesome on it. Have you seen the Jayston one? That's the only one available to me that I haven't seen, as far as I know.

I do like the idea of being tightly focused. despatches is nicely concentrated. But despatches doesn't include, say, Anne of Green Gables, so selfishly I want something that runs up to WWI, which makes me think, "why can't we have stuff before Age of Sail, too?"

I wonder if having challenges and stuff would make things feel less sprawling. The main reason I don't read rarelitslash is that not many people post on it. It's true that when they do, I don't know the fandom though.

I have seen the Jayston one, though not for a few years. I remember liking it a lot and thinking that all the characters seemed very...happy. I'm sort of holding that one in reserve to do last--I'd like to end on a high note, and there are a lot of stinkers to get through before I'm done. :D

This sounds like a great idea to me, and I think I'd echo what people are saying above - making it cover more periods, but narrow itr down with sensible tags, and of course there can always be very specific challenges and/or ficathons hosted/advertised here, or specific era recs as well. Certainly I'm in favour of up to WWII (and in fact, even post-war and 1950s are almost always presented in a very period way - i.e. 'how quaint, look at the odd little cars, and the prices, and how pretty the dresses are...' etc. (Maybe the cut-off point should be 50 years prior to date of posting? :lol: Sorry...!)

There are several things I can think of that would be included this way (Upstairs Downstairs, I Capture the Castle, Gosford Park, Forsyte Saga, House of Eliott, South Riding, Poirot/Agatha Christie - and even ITV's new Downton Abbey will probably be set both sides of WWI before it's done.)

Good luck...

I agree this is is a wonderful idea. I have been making notes on a Forsyte Saga story for a while, and would like to know it had a home when I finally finish it.

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